"The thinking classes are fatally removed from the physical side of life-hence their feeble attempt to compensate by embracing a strenuous regimen of gratuitous exercise. Their only relation to productive labor is that of consumers. They have no experience of making anything substantial or enduring. They live in a world of abstractions and images, a simulated world that consists of computerized models of reality-'hyperreality,' as it has been called–as distinguished from the palpable, immediate, physical reality inhabited by ordinary men and women. Their belief in the 'social construction of reality'-the central dogma of postmodernist thought-reflects the experience of living in an artificial environment from which everything that resists human control (unavoidably, everything familiar and reassuring as well) has been rigorously excluded. Control has become their obsession. In their drive to insulate themselves against risk and contingency-against the unpredictable hazards that afflict human life-the thinking classes have seceded not just from the common world around them but from reality itself."
Excerpt from "The Revolt of the Elites" by Christopher Lasch
Looks like I have another book to read. Amusingly, Lasch appears to describe many of the faculty and people that I attended grad school with. They are positive that they are intimately connected with "disenfranchised" people and an integral part of any and all blue collar communties, but also convinced of their own intelligence and unfailing ability to make life-changing decisions for those same people/communities. (Because, it's not like those people can make good decisions on their own.) They are transfixed by the output of the computer models they build and are sure that model runs produce more reliable results than collecting physcial data in the real world. And, above all, they are sure that an occasional hike in a park connects them with the natural world in a way that allows them to comprehend what the natural world needs.
Has anyone seen a thorough analysis of full EV vs Hybrid/PHEV for cars. I can see NO WAY that EVs are better given 1) carbon generated in grid now (UK uses wood pellets from MIssissippi for 5% of their power), poor performance in cold weather, need for massive amounts of Copper (at is often stolen by vandalizing charging stations). This list goes on and on. You could probably have a high school junior do a science fair project that shows it conclusively.
Good article pointing out the incompetence of the fools pushing these mandates. I work for the country’s largest railroad and am close to the proposed regulations the California Air Resources Board is pushing on us. If this goes through our ports and transportation system will be paralyzed. People just don’t understand the severity of this issue. When they seeing empty shelves and prices doubled, or maybe tripled, they will start to get it.
In fact, BEV trucking is the one application that our very limited battery supply should be focused, that is on diesel replacement. Diesel is what runs our economy, puts food on our table, mines the materials we use. Wind/solar are low value applications. BEV light vehicles replace plentiful gasoline which will put further strain on our diesel supply. 2 or 3 gals of gasoline are produced for every gal of diesel refined from crude oil.
Essentially electrifying Heavy Trucking & Rail, Ferries, Heavy Equipment, Mining Equipment, Buses, Agricultural Machinery, short distance Shipping, LRTs is a NO-BRAINER. You are replacing our VERY precarious diesel fuel supply with the much more plentiful and much lower cost gas, coal & nuclear supply. Not too mention ~$66k/yr operating cost savings for replacing a diesel semi with a Tesla semi. That's where precious battery resources belong, not for scam wind/solar utility energy storage, not for light duty vehicles. BEV light vehicles are a waste of precious battery resources and should not be encouraged let alone mandated.
Remember this, our economy runs on heavy distillates like Diesel fuel, Jet fuel, lubricating oils. Run short on those and people die and your economy goes down. Gasoline shortage, people will have to reduce leisure driving.
How the Tesla Semi “Broke the Laws of Physics”. The Limiting Factor:
No overall cost is substantially lower. That's why their semi-Trucks are in huge demand. Unfortunately their $7B production plant is still not in operation. The ones they do have out are bespoke versions, indeed mostly being used by themselves for their own deliveries and testing/upgrading. Mostly they are intending to lease the vehicles so overall cost savings are right up front for any truck company.
Overall cost is calculated @ $66k savings per vehicle per year, due largely to a much lower energy cost. With a much lower maintenance cost, longer mileage lifespan & faster delivery times due to 3X acceleration and no downhill downshifting.
Battery pack is 9700lbs but total cab weight is only 4860kg/5200lbs heavier (~25% heavier) and they get a 2000lb leeway on max total weight. A total <1400kg/2800lbs cargo penalty. 1.4T/20T cargo = 7% cargo penalty. 1.4T/82klbs(37.2T) = 3.7% total. Most trucks don't travel fully loaded in any case so that is a minor deficiency, which will be eliminated with newer batteries (they already have a newer version of their 4680 cell.) Semi-Trucks without trailer weigh 10-25,000lbs or to 11MT. Empty Trailer is ~10,000lbs/4500kg. And recharge time is 70% in 30m. That will be easily be made up in faster travel speeds.
Note the Tesla Semi performed equal to or better than Diesel Trucks in the long range fully loaded category at the NACFE recent trials. It could match fully loaded range over a full day driving cycle to a diesel truck carrying an equal load. Pepsi wants to go all Tesla's for its Truck fleet because it is saving $60k/yr in energy costs per truck. Additional maintenance cost savings:
Mostly Tesla is leasing the vehicles, so the company knows up front their cost savings of typically $200k over a 3yr contract. Largely due to lower energy cost.
They ain't assumptions, they are proven facts. The Tesla semi is being manufactured in batch mode, until they build their giant $7B factory in Nevada. They have over a hundred units on the road with themselves & Pepsi.
They regularly move loads with their Trucks from Fremont to San Diego, even fully loaded with >80,000lbs, they can do it on one charge, with 4% left after 500 miles with a 4136ft climb past Grapevine.
And the NACFE trials confirmed these facts, the Tesla semi can do the same daily loads as a diesel truck. But with much lower energy costs.
EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks, Patrick!
"The thinking classes are fatally removed from the physical side of life-hence their feeble attempt to compensate by embracing a strenuous regimen of gratuitous exercise. Their only relation to productive labor is that of consumers. They have no experience of making anything substantial or enduring. They live in a world of abstractions and images, a simulated world that consists of computerized models of reality-'hyperreality,' as it has been called–as distinguished from the palpable, immediate, physical reality inhabited by ordinary men and women. Their belief in the 'social construction of reality'-the central dogma of postmodernist thought-reflects the experience of living in an artificial environment from which everything that resists human control (unavoidably, everything familiar and reassuring as well) has been rigorously excluded. Control has become their obsession. In their drive to insulate themselves against risk and contingency-against the unpredictable hazards that afflict human life-the thinking classes have seceded not just from the common world around them but from reality itself."
Excerpt from "The Revolt of the Elites" by Christopher Lasch
Looks like I have another book to read. Amusingly, Lasch appears to describe many of the faculty and people that I attended grad school with. They are positive that they are intimately connected with "disenfranchised" people and an integral part of any and all blue collar communties, but also convinced of their own intelligence and unfailing ability to make life-changing decisions for those same people/communities. (Because, it's not like those people can make good decisions on their own.) They are transfixed by the output of the computer models they build and are sure that model runs produce more reliable results than collecting physcial data in the real world. And, above all, they are sure that an occasional hike in a park connects them with the natural world in a way that allows them to comprehend what the natural world needs.
https://decarbonization.visualcapitalist.com/breaking-down-the-cost-of-clean-energy-transition/
$110 TRillion dollars to do this!
Has anyone seen a thorough analysis of full EV vs Hybrid/PHEV for cars. I can see NO WAY that EVs are better given 1) carbon generated in grid now (UK uses wood pellets from MIssissippi for 5% of their power), poor performance in cold weather, need for massive amounts of Copper (at is often stolen by vandalizing charging stations). This list goes on and on. You could probably have a high school junior do a science fair project that shows it conclusively.
Good article pointing out the incompetence of the fools pushing these mandates. I work for the country’s largest railroad and am close to the proposed regulations the California Air Resources Board is pushing on us. If this goes through our ports and transportation system will be paralyzed. People just don’t understand the severity of this issue. When they seeing empty shelves and prices doubled, or maybe tripled, they will start to get it.
Whats a few trillion here and there to save the planet? Everyone stop everything now.
Actually the total is $110,000,000,000,000 (yes that is $110 TRILLION)
https://decarbonization.visualcapitalist.com/breaking-down-the-cost-of-clean-energy-transition/
In fact, BEV trucking is the one application that our very limited battery supply should be focused, that is on diesel replacement. Diesel is what runs our economy, puts food on our table, mines the materials we use. Wind/solar are low value applications. BEV light vehicles replace plentiful gasoline which will put further strain on our diesel supply. 2 or 3 gals of gasoline are produced for every gal of diesel refined from crude oil.
Essentially electrifying Heavy Trucking & Rail, Ferries, Heavy Equipment, Mining Equipment, Buses, Agricultural Machinery, short distance Shipping, LRTs is a NO-BRAINER. You are replacing our VERY precarious diesel fuel supply with the much more plentiful and much lower cost gas, coal & nuclear supply. Not too mention ~$66k/yr operating cost savings for replacing a diesel semi with a Tesla semi. That's where precious battery resources belong, not for scam wind/solar utility energy storage, not for light duty vehicles. BEV light vehicles are a waste of precious battery resources and should not be encouraged let alone mandated.
Remember this, our economy runs on heavy distillates like Diesel fuel, Jet fuel, lubricating oils. Run short on those and people die and your economy goes down. Gasoline shortage, people will have to reduce leisure driving.
How the Tesla Semi “Broke the Laws of Physics”. The Limiting Factor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtGQ6KC3t1c
No overall cost is substantially lower. That's why their semi-Trucks are in huge demand. Unfortunately their $7B production plant is still not in operation. The ones they do have out are bespoke versions, indeed mostly being used by themselves for their own deliveries and testing/upgrading. Mostly they are intending to lease the vehicles so overall cost savings are right up front for any truck company.
Overall cost is calculated @ $66k savings per vehicle per year, due largely to a much lower energy cost. With a much lower maintenance cost, longer mileage lifespan & faster delivery times due to 3X acceleration and no downhill downshifting.
Battery pack is 9700lbs but total cab weight is only 4860kg/5200lbs heavier (~25% heavier) and they get a 2000lb leeway on max total weight. A total <1400kg/2800lbs cargo penalty. 1.4T/20T cargo = 7% cargo penalty. 1.4T/82klbs(37.2T) = 3.7% total. Most trucks don't travel fully loaded in any case so that is a minor deficiency, which will be eliminated with newer batteries (they already have a newer version of their 4680 cell.) Semi-Trucks without trailer weigh 10-25,000lbs or to 11MT. Empty Trailer is ~10,000lbs/4500kg. And recharge time is 70% in 30m. That will be easily be made up in faster travel speeds.
Note the Tesla Semi performed equal to or better than Diesel Trucks in the long range fully loaded category at the NACFE recent trials. It could match fully loaded range over a full day driving cycle to a diesel truck carrying an equal load. Pepsi wants to go all Tesla's for its Truck fleet because it is saving $60k/yr in energy costs per truck. Additional maintenance cost savings:
Tesla Semi Performance Results Revealed!:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AupOhz1Je5E
Mostly Tesla is leasing the vehicles, so the company knows up front their cost savings of typically $200k over a 3yr contract. Largely due to lower energy cost.
I’m sorry but I don’t agree with any of your assumptions.
They ain't assumptions, they are proven facts. The Tesla semi is being manufactured in batch mode, until they build their giant $7B factory in Nevada. They have over a hundred units on the road with themselves & Pepsi.
They regularly move loads with their Trucks from Fremont to San Diego, even fully loaded with >80,000lbs, they can do it on one charge, with 4% left after 500 miles with a 4136ft climb past Grapevine.
And the NACFE trials confirmed these facts, the Tesla semi can do the same daily loads as a diesel truck. But with much lower energy costs.